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	<title>Comments on: Updated: Estonia approves voting via mobile phone. (Not exactly.)</title>
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		<title>By: Global Voices teny Malagasy &#187; Eoropa afovoany sy atsinanana: ny marika napetraka ;-) sy tantara aterineto hafa</title>
		<link>http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/2008/12/11/estonia-approves-voting-via-mobile-phone/#comment-1171</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices teny Malagasy &#187; Eoropa afovoany sy atsinanana: ny marika napetraka ;-) sy tantara aterineto hafa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Farivar indray moa miresaka ny fandrosoan&#039;ny fomba fifidinana any Estonia: The Estonian parliament […] has just approved [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Farivar indray moa miresaka ny fandrosoan&#39;ny fomba fifidinana any Estonia: The Estonian parliament […] has just approved [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Central &#38; Eastern Europe: Trademark on ;-) and Other Internet News</title>
		<link>http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/2008/12/11/estonia-approves-voting-via-mobile-phone/#comment-1170</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Central &#38; Eastern Europe: Trademark on ;-) and Other Internet News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Farivar writes this about Estonia&#039;s advanced voting practices: The Estonian parliament [&#8230;] has just approved [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Farivar writes this about Estonia&#39;s advanced voting practices: The Estonian parliament [&#8230;] has just approved [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus Farivar</title>
		<link>http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/2008/12/11/estonia-approves-voting-via-mobile-phone/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyrus Farivar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand why civil libertarians in the US and the UK would be nervous about this. But it&#039;s seemed to work so far in Estonia without any problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand why civil libertarians in the US and the UK would be nervous about this. But it&#8217;s seemed to work so far in Estonia without any problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Howell</title>
		<link>http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/2008/12/11/estonia-approves-voting-via-mobile-phone/#comment-1168</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way in which Estonia intended to allow mobiles to be used for voting wasn&#039;t immediately clear. My apologies if I misunderstood.

However I would still be nervous about relying on any government resisting the temptation to retain information as to how its citizens might choose to vote, particularly given the desire of the British government to retain a record of just about every other digital transaction people might choose to undertake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way in which Estonia intended to allow mobiles to be used for voting wasn&#8217;t immediately clear. My apologies if I misunderstood.</p>
<p>However I would still be nervous about relying on any government resisting the temptation to retain information as to how its citizens might choose to vote, particularly given the desire of the British government to retain a record of just about every other digital transaction people might choose to undertake.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus Farivar</title>
		<link>http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/2008/12/11/estonia-approves-voting-via-mobile-phone/#comment-1167</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyrus Farivar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, Estonia is not allowing voting via mobile phone. Rather, they&#039;re allowing the mobile phone to be used as a form of digital ID -- instead of the current ID card that they do have. (See : http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/?p=1855)

Second, your conclusion &quot;In other words, text your preference, and tell the authorities exactly how you vote.&quot; negates the fact that the Estonian software will strip out your identifying data. Recall that Estonia started national online voting last year and used it without a problem. 

It&#039;s not simply that you&#039;re texting your vote like you text your buddy across town. There&#039;s an entire infrastructure that Estonia has created to have a secure, digital ID -- and it works well for voting and other government interactions. When Estonia does allow voting via mobile phone, it will not allow government officials to know who you voted for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, Estonia is not allowing voting via mobile phone. Rather, they&#8217;re allowing the mobile phone to be used as a form of digital ID &#8212; instead of the current ID card that they do have. (See : <a href="http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/?p=1855" rel="nofollow">http://cyrusfarivar.com/blog/?p=1855</a>)</p>
<p>Second, your conclusion &#8220;In other words, text your preference, and tell the authorities exactly how you vote.&#8221; negates the fact that the Estonian software will strip out your identifying data. Recall that Estonia started national online voting last year and used it without a problem. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not simply that you&#8217;re texting your vote like you text your buddy across town. There&#8217;s an entire infrastructure that Estonia has created to have a secure, digital ID &#8212; and it works well for voting and other government interactions. When Estonia does allow voting via mobile phone, it will not allow government officials to know who you voted for.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing about these proposals that will make voting any the easier, so they are unlikely to boost turnout, and they may well prove profoundly undemocratic:http://www.reviewsreviewed.co.uk/index.php/mobileblog/The-X-factor-Estonia-texts-the-end-of-the-secret-ballot.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing about these proposals that will make voting any the easier, so they are unlikely to boost turnout, and they may well prove profoundly undemocratic:<a href="http://www.reviewsreviewed.co.uk/index.php/mobileblog/The-X-factor-Estonia-texts-the-end-of-the-secret-ballot.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.reviewsreviewed.co.uk/index.php/mobileblog/The-X-factor-Estonia-texts-the-end-of-the-secret-ballot.html</a></p>
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