{"id":954,"date":"2006-03-09T09:48:36","date_gmt":"2006-03-09T17:48:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cyrusfarivar.com\/blog\/?p=954"},"modified":"2006-03-09T09:48:36","modified_gmt":"2006-03-09T17:48:36","slug":"secure-computing-saga-gets-weirder","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cyrusfarivar.com\/blog\/2006\/03\/09\/secure-computing-saga-gets-weirder\/","title":{"rendered":"Secure Computing Saga Gets Weirder"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So the whole Boing Boing vs. Secure Computing saga (my radio piece is <a href=\"http:\/\/audio.theworld.org\/wma.php?id=03065\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boingboing.net\/2006\/03\/06\/ny_times_on_smartfil.html\">NYT coverage is here<\/a>) has gotten just a touch weirder. <\/p>\n<p>From the NYT piece:<\/p>\n<p><i>In an e-mail message to Xeni Jardin, another of Boing Boing&#8217;s chiefs, Tomo Foote-Lennox, a director of filtering data for Secure Computing, asked why the bloggers were starting a war. &#8220;We discussed several ways that you could organize your site so that I could protect the kids and you could distribute all the information you wanted,&#8221; Mr. Foote-Lennox wrote.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>A couple of bloggers, <a href=\"http:\/\/joi.ito.com\/archives\/2006\/03\/09\/adult_baby_fetish_guy_working_at_smartfilter.html\">Joi Ito<\/a>, (who found the link from <a href=\"http:\/\/suicidegirls.com\/news\/technology\/14604\/\">Sean Bonner<\/a>) and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kathryncramer.com\/kathryn_cramer\/2006\/03\/secure_computin.html\">Kathryn Cramer<\/a>, and sex blogger <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tinynibbles.com\/blogarchives\/2006\/03\/adult_babies_an.html\">Violet Blue<\/a> have found that Mr. Foote-Lennox isn&#8217;t quite the &#8220;protector of kids&#8221; that he&#8217;d like to make himself out to be.<\/p>\n<p>All those bloggers (and probably others) have found that Mr. Foote-Lennox turns up on <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/groups?hl=en&#038;q=%22tomo%20foote-lennox%22&#038;btnG=Google+Search&#038;sa=N&#038;tab=wg\">Google&#8217;s Usenet Archives<\/a> (aka &#8220;Google Groups&#8221;) under the alt.sex.diapers group, (for adult baby fetishists) in entries from 1996. He posts <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/alt.sex.fetish.diapers\/browse_thread\/thread\/8bed29af63f8c80e\/2c40bb0795b55db6?lnk=st&#038;q=%22tomo+foote-lennox%22&#038;rnum=10&#038;hl=en#2c40bb0795b55db6\">here<\/a> inviting people to a party, and again <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.google.com\/group\/alt.sex.fetish.diapers\/browse_thread\/thread\/acde38d6cb2cc4e9\/c8c0b96ebb5118f4?lnk=st&#038;q=Tomo+foote-lennox&#038;rnum=11&#038;hl=en#c8c0b96ebb5118f4\">here<\/a> writing about that party.<\/p>\n<p>Violet said it best:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve lectured on panels with AB practitioners and pro-doms who specialize in AB play. This, however, is a particularly disturbing context for an AB fetishist. This is exactly the problem we&#8217;re facing; people like Lennox are likey *dangerously* confusing fantasy with reality. The important thing to remember, though is that AB and diaper fetishists are typically not sexualizing babies, though it is a very, VERY extreme type of fetish play that you need to really be articulate about. In my strong opinion, it is not a fetish that someone who works for, or with, children should be doing; how can anyone ever know where fantasy and reality merge in their minds?<\/p>\n<p>Look, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s anyone&#8217;s business what someone does to get off in their private lives. But it&#8217;s a HUGE red flag when the person aggressively &#8220;protecting children&#8221; is into AB play; I&#8217;d way rather have a medical fetishist or a human pony &#8212; something neutral. Or at least a dominatrix, who spends her professional time negotiating the differences between fantasy and reality (often explaining these distinctions to AB&#8217;s). Now no one can ever know if Lennox knows what it means to be a responsible adult (especially one who can keep a fetish on a low profile). Either way, AB&#8217;s have a very different way of seeing children and childhood than the rest of us. The key thing with most ABers is that they typically don&#8217;t sexualize children &#8212; the want to *be* children in the worst way, and it&#8217;s usually the mommy figure that&#8217;s sexualized.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So the whole Boing Boing vs. Secure Computing saga (my radio piece is here and NYT coverage is here) has gotten just a touch weirder. 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